16 Jul
2014
16 Jul
'14
3:20 p.m.
John and I just had a discussion here about whether we should post my SPIE
proceedings to the arxiv. The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions
in the blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted. Even without posting to the
arxiv, it will still get exposure through SPIE, ADS, etc., and we can post
it to bicepkeck.org (at the bottom of the page with the other SPIEs) so
everyone can get access without an SPIE subscription. So John and I are
leaning against posting to the arxiv, but what do others think?
Zeesh, are you planning to post your proceedings to the arxiv?
Immanuel Buder
Postdoctoral Fellow
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(office) 617 495 7567
(office) 160 Concord Ave., M-114C
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Cambridge, MA 02138
ibuder(a)gmail.com
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16 Jul
16 Jul
3:33 p.m.
New subject: [bicep3-cmb] Posting SPIE Proceedings to arxiv?
Hi Immanuel,
The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and
Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the presence
of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a more specific
concern that people will say there's something wrong with our beam
analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is well enough
connected to various people in the field to find anything that's in an
SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a problem with putting the
proceedings on arxiv.
- Walt
3:53 p.m.
New subject: [keckarray] [bicep3-cmb] Posting SPIE Proceedings to arxiv?
I would like to post the B3 proceedings on arxiv.
On Jul 16, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Walt Ogburn <ogburn(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
Hi Immanuel,
The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and
Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the presence
of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a more specific
concern that people will say there's something wrong with our beam
analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is well enough
connected to various people in the field to find anything that's in an
SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a problem with putting the
proceedings on arxiv.
- Walt
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4:06 p.m.
New subject: [bicep3-cmb] Posting SPIE Proceedings to arxiv?
The concern isn't about the content of the paper. I don't think there's
anything that could imply that we did anything wrong in the B2 analysis.
The concern is more that some outsiders might not realize what the paper is
actually about and mistakenly post about e.g. new combined results from
BICEP2 and Keck.
Immanuel Buder
Postdoctoral Fellow
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(office) 617 495 7567
(office) 160 Concord Ave., M-114C
(mail) 60 Garden St. MS 42
Cambridge, MA 02138
ibuder(a)gmail.com
<ibuder(a)cfa.harvard.edu>
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Walt Ogburn <ogburn(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
Hi Immanuel,
The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and
Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the presence
of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a more specific
concern that people will say there's something wrong with our beam
analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is well enough
connected to various people in the field to find anything that's in an
SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a problem with putting the
proceedings on arxiv.
- Walt
4:28 p.m.
New subject: [bicep3-cmb] Posting SPIE Proceedings to arxiv?
Hi Immanuel,
If that's the concern, then having the full paper easily available on
the arxiv is less open to misinterpretation than having the title
easily available and the text hidden behind a paywall.
- Walt
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:06:27 -0400
Immanuel Buder <ibuder(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The concern isn't about the content of the paper.
I don't think
there's anything that could imply that we did anything wrong in the
B2 analysis.
The concern is more that some outsiders might not realize what the
paper is actually about and mistakenly post about e.g. new combined
results from BICEP2 and Keck.
Immanuel Buder
Postdoctoral Fellow
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(office) 617 495 7567
(office) 160 Concord Ave., M-114C
(mail) 60 Garden St. MS 42
Cambridge, MA 02138
ibuder(a)gmail.com
<ibuder(a)cfa.harvard.edu>
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Walt Ogburn <ogburn(a)stanford.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Immanuel,
>
> > The concern is that because of the title (which contains "BICEP2
> > and Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
> > blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
>
> I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the
> presence of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a
> more specific concern that people will say there's something wrong
> with our beam analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is
> well enough connected to various people in the field to find
> anything that's in an SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a
> problem with putting the proceedings on arxiv.
>
> - Walt
>
>
>
4:29 p.m.
New subject: [keckarray] [bicep3-cmb] Posting SPIE Proceedings to arxiv?
Not posting a paper on the arxiv fearing that its title might be misinterpreted by those
who haven't read the abstract is perhaps a bit too cautious. I think we
shouldn't let some misinformed folks in the blogosphere curtail our academic
freedom.
On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Immanuel Buder <ibuder(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The concern isn't about the content of the paper.
I don't think there's anything that could imply that we did anything wrong in
the B2 analysis.
The concern is more that some outsiders might not realize what the paper is actually
about and mistakenly post about e.g. new combined results from BICEP2 and Keck.
Immanuel Buder
Postdoctoral Fellow
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(office) 617 495 7567
(office) 160 Concord Ave., M-114C
(mail) 60 Garden St. MS 42
Cambridge, MA 02138
ibuder(a)gmail.com
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Walt Ogburn <ogburn(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
Hi Immanuel,
The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and
Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the presence
of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a more specific
concern that people will say there's something wrong with our beam
analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is well enough
connected to various people in the field to find anything that's in an
SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a problem with putting the
proceedings on arxiv.
- Walt
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5:12 p.m.
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I agree. In the comment field, you usually put something like "Presented
at SPIE Ground-based and Airborne Telescopes V, June 23, 2014. To be
published in Proceedings of SPIE Volume 9145" (copying what it says in
Steve's BLASTbus2 paper) so that it's obvious to any outsider what this
is. Anyone blogging about it as some kind of combined cosmology result
would be a moron. We can choose not to post it to arXiv for some other
reason (e.g. "I don't feel like it"), but don't let paranoia be the
reason.
Not posting a paper on the arxiv fearing that its
title might be
misinterpreted by those who haven't read the abstract is perhaps a bit too
cautious. I think we shouldn't let some misinformed folks in the
blogosphere curtail our academic freedom.
On Jul 16, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Immanuel Buder <ibuder(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The concern isn't about the content of the
paper. I don't think there's
anything that could imply that we did anything wrong in the B2 analysis.
The concern is more that some outsiders might not realize what the paper
is actually about and mistakenly post about e.g. new combined results
from BICEP2 and Keck.
Immanuel Buder
Postdoctoral Fellow
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(office) 617 495 7567
(office) 160 Concord Ave., M-114C
(mail) 60 Garden St. MS 42
Cambridge, MA 02138
ibuder(a)gmail.com
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Walt Ogburn <ogburn(a)stanford.edu>
wrote:
Hi Immanuel,
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The concern is that because of the title (which
contains "BICEP2 and
Keck Array") it could cause some unwarranted eruptions in the
blogosphere if it gets misinterpreted.
I'm not sure I understand the concern. Is it really just the presence
of the words "BICEP and the Keck Array", or is there a more specific
concern that people will say there's something wrong with our beam
analysis? I tend to think that the blogosphere is well enough
connected to various people in the field to find anything that's in an
SPIE talk or proceeding. I don't see a problem with putting the
proceedings on arxiv.
- Walt
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