13 Dec
2011
13 Dec
'11
12:38 p.m.
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
13 Dec
13 Dec
1:21 p.m.
As an external but by no means disinterested party, I have to caution all participants in
the gathering door lock hysteria (I do not use the word "hoax") that precipitous
action before there is a body of established, empirical facts threatens to dissipate the
very resources that the door lock fanatics purportedly seek to protect. I ask, have any
possessions disappeared already? Can the supposed knowledge gleaned from other portions of
the department be simply transferred to the group offices? And what do we know about the
vested interests of the lockers? Do they, for example, have any controlling interests in
lock companies?
I say, get the facts straight before proceeding to AGW (Aspuru-Guzik Warnings).
Regards,
Mike
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:38 PM
To: A-G Group
Subject: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Locking discussion - tomorrow at 11:50
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
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1:49 p.m.
I second the motion of the honorable former congressional candidate Stopa
(R-MA): This is a clear attempt of government overreach and excessive use of
red tape! Locking doors is an unprecedented intrusion on the freedom and
liberties of the inhabitants of M-104, third only to the Patriot Act and the
plot of a recent 'Law & Order' episode.
It is know that thefts in the department only occurred in unlocked offices
without anyone present (source: Fox News), and that the department reminded
us "that we work in an open environment ... keep [possessions]... locked up
whenever you leave your desk or office."
Regards
Jo
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bounces(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Stopa, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 13:21
To: Jacob J Krich; A-G Group
Subject: Re: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Locking discussion - tomorrow
at 11:50
As an external but by no means disinterested party, I have to
caution all participants in the gathering door lock hysteria (I do
not use the word "hoax") that precipitous action before there is a
body of established, empirical facts threatens to dissipate the very
resources that the door lock fanatics purportedly seek to protect. I
ask, have any possessions disappeared already? Can the supposed
knowledge gleaned from other portions of the department be simply
transferred to the group offices? And what do we know about the
vested interests of the lockers? Do they, for example, have any
controlling interests in lock companies?
I say, get the facts straight before proceeding to AGW (Aspuru-Guzik
Warnings).
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: aspuru-list-bounces(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu [mailto:aspuru-list-
bounces(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Jacob J Krich
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:38 PM
To: A-G Group
Subject: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Locking discussion - tomorrow at
11:50
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be
to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty,
to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from
the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for
group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can
give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to
the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally
as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the
options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so
we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
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4:33 p.m.
Sounds exciting! I'm in.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jacob J Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking
will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
_____________________________________________
Aspuru-list mailing list
Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
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Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
Harvard University
12 Oxford Street, Cambridge, MA 02138
email: saykin(a)fas.harvard.edu
phone: (619)212-6649
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14 Dec
14 Dec
10:06 a.m.
Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much open
door policy as possible, as there are other people (like undergrads, etc.)
that will be knocking the doors much more if they are not open during the
day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if good
enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible. Therefore, people
that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab for a reason) can lock
them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
The group members then would have the responsibility of locking their own
laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end. Those that
do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones that
work for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!) when I
brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding this
(lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy solution. You
also have keys to your desk drawers to put your backpacks if you feel so
inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if you think
that is also necessary.
Alan
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking
will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
_____________________________________________
Aspuru-list mailing list
Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
10:20 a.m.
Here is another technical measure which I use:
http://www.backblaze.com/lost_computer.html
Best
Johannes
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From: aspuru-list-bounces(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu [mailto:aspuru-list-
bounces(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Aspuru-Guzik
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:06
To: Jacob J Krich
Cc: A-G Group
Subject: Re: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Locking discussion - tomorrow
at 11:50
Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much
open door policy as possible, as there are other people (like
undergrads, etc.) that will be knocking the doors much more if they
are not open during the day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that
is worried about laptop security, and all the group, there are two
possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door
policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent
if good enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible.
Therefore, people that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab
for a reason) can lock them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-
computer-security/product-prod3291092?cm_mmc=GBase-_-Technology-_-
Computer%20Accessories-_-
Locks%20and%20Computer%20Security&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=22370710
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-
Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
The group members then would have the responsibility of locking
their own laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the
end. Those that do not feel that is necessary, can take their
chances.
There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones
that work for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department
so that the attachment point for these locks are well installed in
the desks.
By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!)
when I brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding this
(lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy
solution. You also have keys to your desk drawers to put your
backpacks if you feel so inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks
for your backpacks if you think that is also necessary.
Alan
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
http://about.me/aspuru
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich
<jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will
occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal
will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework
treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested
parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time
for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town
can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as
indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and
generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between
the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater
harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each
office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
_____________________________________________
Aspuru-list mailing list
Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
10:23 a.m.
Hi,
As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your laptop/phone.
[1] http://preyproject.com/
Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
networks.
For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution package.
Xavier
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com> wrote:
Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much open
door policy as possible, as there are other people (like undergrads, etc.)
that will be knocking the doors much more if they are not open during the
day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if good
enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible. Therefore, people
that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab for a reason) can lock
them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
The group members then would have the responsibility of locking their own
laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end. Those that
do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones that work
for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!) when I
brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding this
(lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy solution. You
also have keys to your desk drawers to put your backpacks if you feel so
inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if you think
that is also necessary.
Alan
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
wrote:
The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
their opinion to the list.
Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
having better things to do with one's time.
As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
have a lot of flexibility.
Best,
Jacob
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10:33 a.m.
The two solutions seem helpful after your device is stolen, but what about
preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be more
time and cost effective.
Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade <xavier(a)tddft.org> wrote:
Hi,
As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your laptop/phone.
[1] http://preyproject.com/
Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
networks.
For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution package.
Xavier
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>
wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
> There are tons of laptop lock
solutions, so we could buy cool ones that
work
> for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
> attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
> By the way: This is what I used in
Berkeley (buying my own lock!) when I
> brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
> I am interested in finding out the
group's opinion regarding this
> (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy solution.
You
> Alan
> Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate
Professor
> Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
> 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
> (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich
<jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>>
>> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
>> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
>> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
>> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from the
>> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
>> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
>> their opinion to the list.
>>
>> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to the
>> outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
>> having better things to do with one's time.
>>
>> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
>> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
>> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
>> have a lot of flexibility.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jacob
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Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much open
door policy as possible, as there are other people (like undergrads,
etc.)
that will be knocking the doors much more if they
are not open during the
day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if
good
enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as
possible. Therefore,
people
that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop
lab for a reason) can lock
them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
The group members then would have the
responsibility of locking their own
laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end. Those
that
> do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
also have keys to your desk drawers to put your
backpacks if you feel so
inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if you
think
> that is also necessary.
10:38 a.m.
Dear Anna:
Laptop locks prevent it from being stolen in the first place.
Some "random" people include one-day visitors, undergraduates coming to
look for their TA's, people from other departments, etc. A locked door
means many more people standing up to open the door.
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Anna B. Shin <anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
The two solutions seem helpful after your device is
stolen, but what about
preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be more
time and cost effective.
Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade <xavier(a)tddft.org> wrote:
Hi,
As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your laptop/phone.
[1] http://preyproject.com/
Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
networks.
For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution package.
Xavier
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>
wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
> There are tons of laptop lock
solutions, so we could buy cool ones that
work
> for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
> attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
> By the way: This is what I used in
Berkeley (buying my own lock!) when I
> brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
> I am interested in finding out the
group's opinion regarding this
> (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy solution.
You
> Alan
> Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate
Professor
> Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
> 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
> (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
http://about.me/aspuru
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich
<jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu
> wrote:
>>
>> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
>> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
>> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
>> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from
the
>
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> Aspuru-list mailing list
> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
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Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much
open
door policy as possible, as there are other
people (like undergrads,
etc.)
that will be knocking the doors much more if they
are not open during
the
day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is
worried about laptop
security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if
good
enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as
possible. Therefore,
people
that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop
lab for a reason) can
lock
them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
The group members then would have the
responsibility of locking their
own
laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking
it at the end. Those
that
> do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
also have keys to your desk drawers to put your
backpacks if you feel so
inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if you
think
> that is also necessary.
> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at
the usual time for group
> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
> their opinion to the list.
>
> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to
the
>> outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally as
>> having better things to do with one's time.
>>
>> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
>> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
>> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
>> have a lot of flexibility.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jacob
>> _____________________________________________
>> Aspuru-list mailing list
>> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>> https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
11:04 a.m.
Alan,
As I said before, the thief recently caught on camera looked like a student
- and probably was a student - and he had plenty of confidence to walk into
the Jacobsen lab *while researchers were there*. The researchers didn't
stop him because he looked the part of a course undergrad there for office
hours.
Undergrads looking for their TF in our lab wouldn't know where their TF
sits and would be wandering in the office. It's not a big deal for them to
knock on the door and it's not a big deal for someone to stand up and show
them where to go.
One-day visitors typically have a group host taking them around, and longer
stay visitors get a temporary key.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com> wrote:
Dear Anna:
Laptop locks prevent it from being stolen in the first place.
Some "random" people include one-day visitors, undergraduates coming to
look for their TA's, people from other departments, etc. A locked door
means many more people standing up to open the door.
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Anna B. Shin <anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
The two solutions seem helpful after your device
is stolen, but what
about preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be
more time and cost effective.
Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade <xavier(a)tddft.org>wrote;wrote:
_____________________________________________
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Hi,
As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your laptop/phone.
[1] http://preyproject.com/
Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
networks.
For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution package.
Xavier
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>
wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
> There are tons of laptop lock
solutions, so we could buy cool ones
that work
> for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
> attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
> By the way: This is what I used in
Berkeley (buying my own lock!) when
I
> brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
> I am interested in finding out the
group's opinion regarding this
> (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy
solution. You
> Alan
> Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate
Professor
> Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
> 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
> (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
http://about.me/aspuru
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <
jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
>
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Dear group,
I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much
open
door policy as possible, as there are other
people (like undergrads,
etc.)
that will be knocking the doors much more if they
are not open during
the
day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is
worried about laptop
security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
- Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
- Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if
good
enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as
possible. Therefore,
people
that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop
lab for a reason) can
lock
them using these beasts:
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
The group members then would have the
responsibility of locking their
own
laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking
it at the end. Those
that
> do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
also have keys to your desk drawers to put your
backpacks if you feel
so
inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for
your backpacks if you
think
> that is also necessary.
wrote:
>
> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from
the
> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at
the usual time for group
> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can give
> their opinion to the list.
>
> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to
the
> outcome, indifference to the plight of the
polar bear, and generally
as
>> having better things to do with one's time.
>>
>> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the options
>> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
>> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
>> have a lot of flexibility.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jacob
>> _____________________________________________
>> Aspuru-list mailing list
>> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>> https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
11:07 a.m.
Anna:
I repeat, if that laptop were to be locked to the desk, how could that
'student' steal it?
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Anna B. Shin
<anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
Alan,
As I said before, the thief recently caught on camera looked like a
student - and probably was a student - and he had plenty of confidence to
walk into the Jacobsen lab *while researchers were there*. The
researchers didn't stop him because he looked the part of a course
undergrad there for office hours.
Undergrads looking for their TF in our lab wouldn't know where their TF
sits and would be wandering in the office. It's not a big deal for them to
knock on the door and it's not a big deal for someone to stand up and show
them where to go.
One-day visitors typically have a group host taking them around, and
longer stay visitors get a temporary key.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>wrote;wrote:
Dear Anna:
Laptop locks prevent it from being stolen in the first place.
Some "random" people include one-day visitors, undergraduates coming to
look for their TA's, people from other departments, etc. A locked door
means many more people standing up to open the door.
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Anna B. Shin <anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu
wrote:
> The two solutions seem helpful after your device is stolen, but what
> about preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be
> more time and cost effective.
>
> Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
> undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
>
>
> Anna B. Shin
> Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
> Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
> 12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
> 617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
> http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
>
>
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade <xavier(a)tddft.org>wrote;wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your laptop/phone.
>>
>> [1] http://preyproject.com/
>>
>> Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
>> recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
>> and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
>> geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
>> networks.
>>
>> For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution
>> package.
>>
>> Xavier
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear group,
>> >
>> > I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as much
>> open
>> > door policy as possible, as there are other people (like undergrads,
>> etc.)
>> > that will be knocking the doors much more if they are not open during
>> the
>> > day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
>> > security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
>> >
>> > - Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door policy)
>> > - Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent if
>> good
>> > enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible. Therefore,
>> people
>> > that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab for a reason) can
>> lock
>> > them using these beasts:
>> >
>>
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
>> >
>> http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
>> > The group members then would have the responsibility of locking their
>> own
>> > laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end. Those
>> that
>> > do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
>> >
>> > There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones
>> that work
>> > for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that the
>> > attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
>> >
>> > By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!)
>> when I
>> > brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
>> >
>> > I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding this
>> > (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy
>> solution. You
>> > also have keys to your desk drawers to put your backpacks if you feel
>> so
>> > inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if you
>> think
>> > that is also necessary.
>> >
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
>> > Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
>> > 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
>> > (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
>> http://about.me/aspuru
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <
>> jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
>> >> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be to
>> >> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty, to
>> >> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties (from
>> the
>> >> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for group
>> >> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can
>> give
>> >> their opinion to the list.
>> >>
>> >> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference to
>> the
>> >> outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and generally
>> as
>> >> having better things to do with one's time.
>> >>
>> >> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the
>> options
>> >> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony. We
>> >> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so we
>> >> have a lot of flexibility.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Jacob
>> >> _____________________________________________
>> >> Aspuru-list mailing list
>> >> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>> >> https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _____________________________________________
>> > Aspuru-list mailing list
>> > Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>> > https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
>> >
>> _____________________________________________
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>> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>> https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
>>
>
>
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11:09 a.m.
Cable cutters. HUPD does not recommend cable locks as adequate prevention
of theft.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com> wrote:
Anna:
I repeat, if that laptop were to be locked to the desk, how could that
'student' steal it?
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Anna B. Shin <anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu
wrote:
> Alan,
>
> As I said before, the thief recently caught on camera looked like a
> student - and probably was a student - and he had plenty of confidence to
> walk into the Jacobsen lab *while researchers were there*. The
> researchers didn't stop him because he looked the part of a course
> undergrad there for office hours.
>
> Undergrads looking for their TF in our lab wouldn't know where their TF
> sits and would be wandering in the office. It's not a big deal for them to
> knock on the door and it's not a big deal for someone to stand up and show
> them where to go.
>
> One-day visitors typically have a group host taking them around, and
> longer stay visitors get a temporary key.
>
>
> Anna B. Shin
> Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
> Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
> 12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
> 617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
> http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
>
>
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Anna:
>>
>> Laptop locks prevent it from being stolen in the first place.
>>
>> Some "random" people include one-day visitors, undergraduates coming
to
>> look for their TA's, people from other departments, etc. A locked door
>> means many more people standing up to open the door.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
>> Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
>> 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
>> (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Anna B. Shin <
>> anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> The two solutions seem helpful after your device is stolen, but what
>>> about preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be
>>> more time and cost effective.
>>>
>>> Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
>>> undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anna B. Shin
>>> Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
>>> Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
>>> 12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
>>> 617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
>>> http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
>>>
>>>
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade
<xavier(a)tddft.org>wrote;wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your
>>>> laptop/phone.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://preyproject.com/
>>>>
>>>> Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
>>>> recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
>>>> and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
>>>> geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
>>>> networks.
>>>>
>>>> For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution
>>>> package.
>>>>
>>>> Xavier
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik
<alan(a)aspuru.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Dear group,
>>>> >
>>>> > I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as
much
>>>> open
>>>> > door policy as possible, as there are other people (like
undergrads,
>>>> etc.)
>>>> > that will be knocking the doors much more if they are not open
>>>> during the
>>>> > day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
>>>> > security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
>>>> >
>>>> > - Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door
>>>> policy)
>>>> > - Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent
>>>> if good
>>>> > enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible. Therefore,
>>>> people
>>>> > that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab for a reason)
can
>>>> lock
>>>> > them using these beasts:
>>>> >
>>>>
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
>>>> >
>>>>
http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
>>>> > The group members then would have the responsibility of locking
>>>> their own
>>>> > laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end.
>>>> Those that
>>>> > do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
>>>> >
>>>> > There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones
>>>> that work
>>>> > for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that
the
>>>> > attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
>>>> >
>>>> > By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!)
>>>> when I
>>>> > brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
>>>> >
>>>> > I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding
this
>>>> > (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy
>>>> solution. You
>>>> > also have keys to your desk drawers to put your backpacks if you
>>>> feel so
>>>> > inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if
>>>> you think
>>>> > that is also necessary.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Alan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
>>>> > Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
>>>> > 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
>>>> > (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
>>>> http://about.me/aspuru
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <
>>>> jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur
10
>>>> >> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will
be
>>>> to
>>>> >> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework
treaty,
>>>> to
>>>> >> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties
>>>> (from the
>>>> >> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for
>>>> group
>>>> >> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town
can
>>>> give
>>>> >> their opinion to the list.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as
indifference
>>>> to the
>>>> >> outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and
>>>> generally as
>>>> >> having better things to do with one's time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the
>>>> options
>>>> >> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater
harmony. We
>>>> >> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office,
so
>>>> we
>>>> >> have a lot of flexibility.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best,
>>>> >> Jacob
>>>> >> _____________________________________________
>>>> >> Aspuru-list mailing list
>>>> >> Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>>>> >> https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>> > Aspuru-list mailing list
>>>> > Aspuru-list(a)lists.fas.harvard.edu
>>>> > https://lists.fas.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/aspuru-list
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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11:19 a.m.
Dear Anna,
Upon research, I find that there are locks that are very hard to "cut" e.g.
The Targus Defcon. I am sure we can find some solution that doesn't involve
inconvenencing everybody several times a day to open doors. I have been on
the receiving end when I have had postdocs in the offices of either Heller
or Cohen, where I don't have the lock to open and I have to knock, get
somebody to open the door to me, so I can talk to e.g. Sarah when she was
sitting there. This is actually a deterrent for scientific discussions.
Here is the link I found, for example.
http://mobileoffice.about.com/od/laptopaccessories/a/defconsecurity.htm
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Anna B. Shin
<anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu>wrote;wrote:
Cable cutters. HUPD does not recommend cable locks as
adequate prevention
of theft.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=e7480c62f0&view=att&th=12eee19970eeefe4&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>wrote;wrote:
Anna:
I repeat, if that laptop were to be locked to the desk, how could that
'student' steal it?
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu | http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Anna B. Shin <
anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu> wrote:
Alan,
As I said before, the thief recently caught on camera looked like a
student - and probably was a student - and he had plenty of confidence to
walk into the Jacobsen lab *while researchers were there*. The
researchers didn't stop him because he looked the part of a course
undergrad there for office hours.
Undergrads looking for their TF in our lab wouldn't know where their TF
sits and would be wandering in the office. It's not a big deal for them to
knock on the door and it's not a big deal for someone to stand up and show
them where to go.
One-day visitors typically have a group host taking them around, and
longer stay visitors get a temporary key.
Anna B. Shin
Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>wrote;wrote:
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Dear Anna:
Laptop locks prevent it from being stolen in the first place.
Some "random" people include one-day visitors, undergraduates coming to
look for their TA's, people from other departments, etc. A locked door
means many more people standing up to open the door.
Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
(617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
http://about.me/aspuru
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Anna B. Shin <
anna(a)chemistry.harvard.edu> wrote:
> The two solutions seem helpful after your device is stolen, but what
> about preventing it from being stolen in the first place? That seems to be
> more time and cost effective.
>
> Btw, there shouldn't be random people walking in the offices. Our
> undergrads and rotators have keys so they can get in.
>
>
> Anna B. Shin
> Laboratory Administrator | Aspuru-Guzik Research Group
> Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology | Harvard University
> 12 Oxford Street | Cambridge, MA 02138
> 617.496.9964 office | 617.694.9879 cell | 617.496.9411 fax
> http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu/
>
>
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> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Xavier Andrade <xavier(a)tddft.org>wrote;wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As an additional measure, you can install Prey [1] in your
>> laptop/phone.
>>
>> [1] http://preyproject.com/
>>
>> Prey is an open source multi-platform package that can help you
>> recover your laptop in case it gets stolen by collecting information
>> and sending it to you. It collects screenshots, webcam images, and
>> geolocation information based on GPS (if available) or nearby Wifi
>> networks.
>>
>> For Debian and Ubuntu it is directly available as a distribution
>> package.
>>
>> Xavier
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alan Aspuru-Guzik <alan(a)aspuru.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear group,
>> >
>> > I forgot to send another strong suggestion. I am in favor of as
>> much open
>> > door policy as possible, as there are other people (like
>> undergrads, etc.)
>> > that will be knocking the doors much more if they are not open
>> during the
>> > day. Therefore, for the vocal minority that is worried about laptop
>> > security, and all the group, there are two possible solutions:
>> >
>> > - Electronic doors (that do not solve the problem of open door
>> policy)
>> > - Laptop desktop lock devices. These probably are enough deterrent
>> if good
>> > enough. I can offer to buy as many of these as possible. Therefore,
>> people
>> > that bring their laptops (the lab is a desktop lab for a reason)
>> can lock
>> > them using these beasts:
>> >
>>
http://www.officemax.com/technology/computer-accessories/locks-computer-sec…
>> >
>> http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Security-NG72-Universal-Peripheral/dp/B003JTGO6S
>> > The group members then would have the responsibility of locking
>> their own
>> > laptop at the beginning of the day and unlocking it at the end.
>> Those that
>> > do not feel that is necessary, can take their chances.
>> >
>> > There are tons of laptop lock solutions, so we could buy cool ones
>> that work
>> > for macs and pcs alike. We could work with the department so that
>> the
>> > attachment point for these locks are well installed in the desks.
>> >
>> > By the way: This is what I used in Berkeley (buying my own lock!)
>> when I
>> > brought in my laptop, as the same problems were around.
>> >
>> > I am interested in finding out the group's opinion regarding this
>> > (lower-tech than electronic doors) and still open door policy
>> solution. You
>> > also have keys to your desk drawers to put your backpacks if you
>> feel so
>> > inclined. Happy to buy other types of locks for your backpacks if
>> you think
>> > that is also necessary.
>> >
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Alán Aspuru-Guzik | Associate Professor
>> > Harvard University | Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
>> > 12 Oxford Street, Room M113 | Cambridge, MA 02138
>> > (617)-384-8188 | http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu |
>> http://about.me/aspuru
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jacob J Krich <
>> jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The first Aspuru-Guzik group summit on door locking will occur 10
>> >> minutes before group meeting (at 11:50 tomorrow). Our goal will be
>> to
>> >> determine a draft locking protocol, leading to a framework treaty,
>> to
>> >> come into legal force no later than 2020. Uninterested parties
>> (from the
>> >> US, China, India, and Canada) can show up at the usual time for
>> group
>> >> meeting, which will proceed uninterrupted. Anyone out of town can
>> give
>> >> their opinion to the list.
>> >>
>> >> Silence and/or not showing up will be interpreted as indifference
>> to the
>> >> outcome, indifference to the plight of the polar bear, and
>> generally as
>> >> having better things to do with one's time.
>> >>
>> >> As I suggested on Friday, we do not need to choose between the
>> options
>> >> on the doodle poll. Hybrid solutions may achieve greater harmony.
>> We
>> >> also do not necessarily need the same solution for each office, so
>> we
>> >> have a lot of flexibility.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Jacob
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