9 Dec
2011
9 Dec
'11
10:49 p.m.
Not trying to make this more complicated, but I thought a discussion on
Monday might be better than a doodle, because there are more options
that "always locked" and the current system.
For example, I think we all agree that when the office is populated,
thieves are not going to come in and steal things, even if the door is
unlocked. The issue seems to be about 1) when there's only one person in
the office, who may be distracted, and 2) whether that person will
remember to lock the door when leaving.
Proposal: The door should only be unlocked when there are at least 2
people in the office. This has several advantages. From the convenience
side, the door doesn't have to be locked when the office has several
people. From the security side, this decreases the chances of the empty
office ever being unlocked. That is, the second-to-last person to leave
should remember to lock the door. But in case s/he forgets, the last
person should also remember to lock the door, so the system does not
rely on each individual remembering every time.
I'm open to discussing other hybrid solutions, as well. I don't think it
needs to be an either/or decision. We can wait to fill out the doodle
until after we discuss.
Have a good weekend.
Best,
Jacob
9 Dec
9 Dec
11:01 p.m.
New subject: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Doodle: Group Policy on Locked Doors
I hate to become part of this debate (:P), but say those two people are in
your part of the three rooms of the big office (e.g. Alejandro & Roberto),
and someone comes into Semion's part of the room .. are the people on the
far end going to notice? Looks like we need a more elaborate scheme ..
But definitely a discussion on Monday is the best thing :)
Stephanie
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Jacob Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
Not trying to make this more complicated, but I
thought a discussion on
Monday might be better than a doodle, because there are more options
that "always locked" and the current system.
For example, I think we all agree that when the office is populated,
thieves are not going to come in and steal things, even if the door is
unlocked. The issue seems to be about 1) when there's only one person in
the office, who may be distracted, and 2) whether that person will
remember to lock the door when leaving.
Proposal: The door should only be unlocked when there are at least 2
people in the office. This has several advantages. From the convenience
side, the door doesn't have to be locked when the office has several
people. From the security side, this decreases the chances of the empty
office ever being unlocked. That is, the second-to-last person to leave
should remember to lock the door. But in case s/he forgets, the last
person should also remember to lock the door, so the system does not
rely on each individual remembering every time.
I'm open to discussing other hybrid solutions, as well. I don't think it
needs to be an either/or decision. We can wait to fill out the doodle
until after we discuss.
Have a good weekend.
Best,
Jacob
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11:44 p.m.
New subject: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Doodle: Group Policy on Locked Doors
Sorry for adding possible waste of ip packets to the list. But I
cannot attend to the group meeting Monday, so I just want to +1 to
the always-lock principle (or to a better alternative which may arise
during the group meeting.) Also I would like to point out that
always-lock scheme has been already implemented in the small office
(M138) for some reason and it seems to work well now.
Good night and have a good weekend for all :)
-S^2
2011/12/9 Stéphanie Valleau <stephanievalleau(a)gmail.com>om>:
I hate to become part of this debate (:P), but say
those two people are in
your part of the three rooms of the big office (e.g. Alejandro & Roberto),
and someone comes into Semion's part of the room .. are the people on the
far end going to notice? Looks like we need a more elaborate scheme ..
But definitely a discussion on Monday is the best thing :)
Stephanie
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Jacob Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
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Sangwoo Shim
PhD candidate in Chemical Physics
Harvard University
12 Oxford St #63, MA 02138, USA
Not trying to make this more complicated, but I thought a discussion on
Monday might be better than a doodle, because there are more options
that "always locked" and the current system.
For example, I think we all agree that when the office is populated,
thieves are not going to come in and steal things, even if the door is
unlocked. The issue seems to be about 1) when there's only one person in
the office, who may be distracted, and 2) whether that person will
remember to lock the door when leaving.
Proposal: The door should only be unlocked when there are at least 2
people in the office. This has several advantages. From the convenience
side, the door doesn't have to be locked when the office has several
people. From the security side, this decreases the chances of the empty
office ever being unlocked. That is, the second-to-last person to leave
should remember to lock the door. But in case s/he forgets, the last
person should also remember to lock the door, so the system does not
rely on each individual remembering every time.
I'm open to discussing other hybrid solutions, as well. I don't think it
needs to be an either/or decision. We can wait to fill out the doodle
until after we discuss.
Have a good weekend.
Best,
Jacob
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11:56 p.m.
New subject: [Aspuru-Guzik group list] Doodle: Group Policy on Locked Doors
Maybe we could talk to the department about automated locks once I get tenure, if I do ...
Eg locks that can be unlocked quickly with an access card. This might be a good compromise
for rapid access, yet a secure environment.
I look forward to hearing a summary of the discussion. Any volunteer in taking minutes ?
Alan Aspuru-Guzik
Associate Professor
Harvard University
http://aspuru.chem.harvard.edu
Sent from my mobile. Please pardon any typos.
On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Sangwoo Shim <sshim(a)fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
Sorry for adding possible waste of ip packets to the
list. But I
cannot attend to the group meeting Monday, so I just want to +1 to
the always-lock principle (or to a better alternative which may arise
during the group meeting.) Also I would like to point out that
always-lock scheme has been already implemented in the small office
(M138) for some reason and it seems to work well now.
Good night and have a good weekend for all :)
-S^2
2011/12/9 Stéphanie Valleau <stephanievalleau(a)gmail.com>om>:
I hate to become part of this debate (:P), but
say those two people are in
your part of the three rooms of the big office (e.g. Alejandro & Roberto),
and someone comes into Semion's part of the room .. are the people on the
far end going to notice? Looks like we need a more elaborate scheme ..
But definitely a discussion on Monday is the best thing :)
Stephanie
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Jacob Krich <jkrich(a)fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
--
Sangwoo Shim
PhD candidate in Chemical Physics
Harvard University
12 Oxford St #63, MA 02138, USA
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Not trying to make this more complicated, but I thought a discussion on
Monday might be better than a doodle, because there are more options
that "always locked" and the current system.
For example, I think we all agree that when the office is populated,
thieves are not going to come in and steal things, even if the door is
unlocked. The issue seems to be about 1) when there's only one person in
the office, who may be distracted, and 2) whether that person will
remember to lock the door when leaving.
Proposal: The door should only be unlocked when there are at least 2
people in the office. This has several advantages. From the convenience
side, the door doesn't have to be locked when the office has several
people. From the security side, this decreases the chances of the empty
office ever being unlocked. That is, the second-to-last person to leave
should remember to lock the door. But in case s/he forgets, the last
person should also remember to lock the door, so the system does not
rely on each individual remembering every time.
I'm open to discussing other hybrid solutions, as well. I don't think it
needs to be an either/or decision. We can wait to fill out the doodle
until after we discuss.
Have a good weekend.
Best,
Jacob
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